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                 Orbital are the granddaddies 
                of British acid house. From seminal singles like Chime and Halcyon 
                & On through six critically-acclaimed albums and a breathtaking 
                live show, Phil and Paul Hartnoll have done it all.  
                 
                The brothers have recently returned 
                with their sixth album, The Altogether, which is also released 
                on DVD complete with a bunch of specially-filmed videos to accompany 
                each track - and their version of the Doctor Who theme tune!  
                 
                worldpop/dance spoke to Paul Hartnoll 
                in advance of their appearance at this year's Homelands festival, 
                where they are headlining alongside Pulp and The Orb.  
                 
                worldpop/dance: Are you comfortable 
                with your 'elder statesmen of dance' tag?  
                 
                Paul Hartnoll: 'You have to be really 
                because it's true. I'm very nearly 33 and can remember being 22 
                or so and starting out. You really start to notice it when the 
                people making music now are so much younger than yourself. There 
                was a patch when there wasn't much happening in electronic music 
                but I've felt it's gotten really exciting recently. I love the 
                Whole 9 Yards label and the Plump DJs and acts like Dark Globe 
                and Elite Force.  
                 
                worldpop/dance: Do you ever wish 
                you were two 20-year olds starting out in dance music rather than 
                a couple of seasoned veterans with a stack of albums under your 
                belts?  
                 
                Paul Hartnoll: 'Oh God no. Why do 
                it again? I don't want to go back, I'm enjoying this now. When 
                you hit 30 a different level of fun begins. You don't get caught 
                up in the things that made you angry at 18. We got a bit strange 
                with the Middle Of Nowhere and Insides albums but I find I can't 
                write when I feeling like a tortured, angsty artist or if I feel 
                like there's two thousand Orbital fans looking over our shoulders. 
                So you got out and do something stupid, something fun, and remember 
                what it used to be like. You can't worry about other people's 
                opinions.'  
                 
                worldpop/dance: Your music is largely 
                instrumental - did that make it easier or harder to make the accompanying 
                videos?  
                 
                Paul Hartnoll: 'I think it made it 
                easier because there was no brief to follow. Sean Ash, who directed 
                the video to Illuminate, writes these brilliant treatments, almost 
                David Lynch-esque in style. Sean actually got the short end of 
                the stick because he had a smaller budget but he made an amazing 
                video. It's probably my favourite video out of them all.'  
                 
                worldpop/dance: You gave a bunch 
                of directors an open brief - it's turned out real good but could 
                have been a bit of a nightmare?  
                 
                Paul Hartnoll: 'Yes and no really. 
                All the directors we knew and have worked with in past. It was 
                very much a family thing. Take Grant Fulton. He's done covers 
                for our albums and even sung on our tracks. We just sat down in 
                a pub with him and discussed a few ideas. It wasn't like we said 
                'You've got to do it like this', it was more like 'Here's a plan 
                and an angle'. 
                 
                worldpop/dance: The use of DVD and 
                video for The Altogether - has technology finally caught up with 
                Orbital?  
                 
                Paul Hartnoll: 'I've always liked 
                idea of an album with visual representation throughout. We're 
                by no means an MTV-friendly so it's always been a case of 'Why 
                bother?' before. There was no MTV playlist brief. What we wanted 
                was more like when you stay up late and have Channel 4 on and 
                are watching some strange commissioned art films - the ones they 
                do in series of ten. It's about being experimental and trying 
                stuff out, doing what they wanted to do.  
                 
                'But what really interested me was the use of surround sound. 
                We live in a 3-D world - so why not listen to music like that? 
                When you listen to the album we wanted it to sound like you were 
                amongst the band. It would be like recording modern jazz in surround 
                sound with four mics either side of the ensemble. So when you 
                listened to it on some speakers set up an exact distance apart, 
                if you moved close to one of the speakers you'd hear the double 
                bass. Move to another one and you'd hear the drums.  
                 
                'The thing with electronic music is that you can also put the 
                sound where you want it to go but in an abstract way. Like if 
                you were listening to a tennis match and you hear the ball bouncing 
                in different speakers and you involuntarily duck when you hear 
                the ball coming towards you. Basically we wanted it to sound like 
                an acid house barber shop quartet!'  
                 
                worldpop/dance: Can you get this 
                across in the live arena?  
                 
                Paul Hartnoll: 'Well, the only problem 
                is finding the right venue. The perfect gig would be a lovely 
                square room with about 50 people in the middle all cordoned off. 
                But that's not very practical! The closest we came was when we 
                did a gig at the Royal Festival Hall in London and had this big, 
                soft sound swirling around the room. We recorded an audience a 
                week before and then mixed in their murmuring and chattering so 
                people in the Hall weren't sure if it was coming out of the speakers 
                or what. Then we mixed in these riot sounds - recordings of angry 
                voices, bottles being thrown.'  
                 
                worldpop/dance: You feature some 
                unusual samples on this album - Tom Baker, The Cramps, Crass - 
                and shorter songs. Did all this come naturally?  
                 
                Paul Hartnoll: 'Well there was certainly 
                no masterplan! Having said that, we did sit down and try and think 
                it out. We had tried to do that with Insides [Orbital's fourth 
                album] and make it jolly sounding - but that never happens. This 
                time we said, 'Let's bloody well do it'. We set ourselves five-minute 
                time limits and tried to say what we wanted to say musically but 
                just in less time. We wanted to strip away the layers and force 
                ourselves into a situation where we have to concentrate on one 
                sound. It took discipline.'  
                 
                worldpop/dance: If you could spend 
                one day in any producer's studio, whose would it be?  
                 
                Paul Hartnoll: 'Ooooh, now that is 
                a hard one. Currently I'd have to say Missy Elliott. I read a 
                cracking review of her new album and it made me want to go out 
                and buy all of her albums. I loved her single because it was nothing 
                like British pop music.'  
                 
                worldpop/dance: Did you hide behind 
                the sofa when you watched Doctor Who?  
                 
                Paul Hartnoll: 'I used to watch it 
                with a pillow wrapped around me, waiting for the fear to slowly 
                creep on. I'd be terrified of those strange insect creatures - 
                the Wyven, I think - and those walking mummified bodies. I'd go 
                to bed thrashing and screaming. I'd crap my pants basically.' 
                worldpop/dance: Finally, what about Homelands? Paul Hartnoll: 
                'I like Homelands because it's not so Ibizan in its view. It's 
                not just got to be about banging trance. The line-up is more eclectic 
                and there are all these different styles going. It attracts a 
                more open-minded audience. The fact that Pulp and The Orb are 
                on the bill swayed us into doing it.'  
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