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sCrAmBlEd?HaCkZ!
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 3:38 am
by the PLA
sCrAmBlEd?HaCkZ! Video
Oh my god!!! Imagine all the fun that can be had with this little bit of madness. Now to figure out how to get my hands on it.
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 7:29 am
by tcb2000
Imagine it built into Ableton Live!?!? That would be awesome...
Rich
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 10:41 am
by Emmet
thats some good stuff.
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 1:56 pm
by Dog
tcb2000 wrote:Imagine it built into Ableton Live!?!? That would be awesome...
Rich
You're not kidding... Live video bootlegging? Move over Hexstatic n' Coldcut

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 6:13 pm
by Kvagga
That looks amazing!
Hope the actual program is as easy to use as it seemed to be on the video. (If I ever get a chance of playing with it that is.)

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 6:34 pm
by Mucus
What's the fuss? I could achieve the same with VHS, a pneumatic drill & 5 pints of Strongbow!
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:03 pm
by the PLA
Yeah, I'm sure you could. The rest of us however are not that talented.
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:20 am
by Kagey
Mucus wrote:What's the fuss? I could achieve the same with VHS, a pneumatic drill & 5 pints of Strongbow!
ooo now that i wanna see,
i'll even purchase the strongbow !!!!
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 9:45 am
by Loopz
Yeah i like it but its
just a visual glitch machine and we had the audio side of glitch over 5 years ago with brothomstates etc...
just

Look forward to trying it out. Get ready for every remixed track on the web to start sounding glitchy just like everyone does acid remixes cus the software makes it easy.

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 11:18 am
by Dog
Loopz wrote:Yeah i like it but its
just a visual glitch machine and we had the audio side of glitch over 5 years ago with brothomstates etc...
just

Look forward to trying it out. Get ready for every remixed track on the web to start sounding glitchy just like everyone does acid remixes cus the software makes it easy.

Yeah, but linking it to something like Ableton Live would mean you could trigger the video samples in a live bootleg fashion, which to me is exciting...
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:03 pm
by hippy dave
Loopz wrote:just like everyone does acid remixes cus the software makes it easy.

ah so that's why dog's tracks tend to have all that acid
oh and if you want easy glitch audio, check out a vst called dblue glitch

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:30 pm
by Kansler
I reckon you're right about this, loopz, although 1) glitch music is rarely produced based on strict algorithms, 2) the idea of mapping two or more pieces of music based on the similarity of the sound waves is pretty fantastic, and offers fascinating opportunities.
Here's to hoping they GNU-release it reasonably soon.
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 1:54 pm
by Loopz
oh dont get me wrong, i'm not knocking the software or the technology. It IS mind blowing but the end result is what i'm looking at and if you watch the whole of the video you will see a few examples at the end that really all sound just as glitchy as each other. It then became a bit of a bore to watch imo.
Glitch is fantastic when executed in a more constructive way and maybe this is where the software will fail.
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 2:29 pm
by hippy dave
mmm actually got around to watching the video now. it does look very cool, and fun to play with, but i agree it would have pretty limited novelty use as it is as far as actually performing music with it goes because of the constantly very glitchy nature of the sound.
Glitch is fantastic when executed in a more constructive way and maybe this is where the software will fail.
as is, yeah, but the good news is it's getting open sourced, so people will be able to find all sorts of ways to use the concept in a more structured and effective way
*edit* another thought, even without modifying the software you could still use it to produce av streams which can then be sampled and arranged into (or incorporated into) a finished piece, in the same way that you might do with an audio stream - i keep finding when i experiment with little unpolished audio manipulation tools that the best way to get something useful is to render to wav, then use soundforge to beat it into shape.

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 2:45 pm
by Loopz
Yeah as a more streamlined mixing tool it may be usefull