SEQUENCE: 27/10 & 24/11: Ae/LFO/Surgeon/Modeselektor
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we're doing a competition to win a pair of tickets for the ae/lfo gig on the 24th.
it's live on our site now - on the front page!
anyone interested in a couple of freebies check it out at http://www.computercontrolled.co.uk... good luck.
it's live on our site now - on the front page!
anyone interested in a couple of freebies check it out at http://www.computercontrolled.co.uk... good luck.
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Its posted in the Music Discussion but thought i would air it here as well...
PA was Too quiet. Beer too expensive and generaly was disappointed by the live sets. LFO just played everything at 200bpm and Autechre was too quiet to make any impact. I also thought the laser show was erm pointless
Autechre should be in a dark room and loud. Then it would be a worthy night.
I'm so glad i experienced their current set in the pitch dark in Manchester and London
PA was Too quiet. Beer too expensive and generaly was disappointed by the live sets. LFO just played everything at 200bpm and Autechre was too quiet to make any impact. I also thought the laser show was erm pointless

I'm so glad i experienced their current set in the pitch dark in Manchester and London

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i think this is the only post i've read about last friday's party that is so negative. i know that this is a msg board and everyone is entitled to their opinion but i just wanna set a few things straight.
(1) lfo plays everything that fast because it IS his live set - that's how it is. and i reckon given his experience he probably knows what he's doing...
(2) the lasers weren't 'erm pointless' at all, they were brought in especially by autechre for their set... maybe they just wanted to have lasers instead of blacking everything out. maybe they just want to do something different every now and again. were they really that 'pointless', come on?
(3) beer isn't THAT expensive - it's only the same as a club (bottles for £3ish).
(4) the PA was restricted due to residents complaining about the noise at earlier events. to get the best out of it a whole new sound crew were brought in by us and the artists and it probably sounded the best it had through the whole series of events. the artists had no complaints about it anyway... we made the best out of a tricky situation.
to put a party on - of that size - celebrating modern, underground electronic music is no easy feat... so at least give it a bit of credit mate.
then again, i'm sure you could do a better job couldn't you?
(1) lfo plays everything that fast because it IS his live set - that's how it is. and i reckon given his experience he probably knows what he's doing...
(2) the lasers weren't 'erm pointless' at all, they were brought in especially by autechre for their set... maybe they just wanted to have lasers instead of blacking everything out. maybe they just want to do something different every now and again. were they really that 'pointless', come on?
(3) beer isn't THAT expensive - it's only the same as a club (bottles for £3ish).
(4) the PA was restricted due to residents complaining about the noise at earlier events. to get the best out of it a whole new sound crew were brought in by us and the artists and it probably sounded the best it had through the whole series of events. the artists had no complaints about it anyway... we made the best out of a tricky situation.
to put a party on - of that size - celebrating modern, underground electronic music is no easy feat... so at least give it a bit of credit mate.
then again, i'm sure you could do a better job couldn't you?

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Take it on the chin 
I'm not on my own here so please remove the blinkers. I dont visit many boards but I read some negative posts at xltronic as well.
In response.
I've seen LFO live at least 4 times in my life and he doesnt always go for the 200bpm option. I know he prefers the more ravey side of things and each to their own. It wasnt my bag - the pill heads loved it though. One punter on xltronic must have said he didnt enjoy his set as well as another replied with "I thought LFO was a slight dissapointment aswell". Not just me squire..
So Autechre brought in the laser show! Even if the bloody queen brought it in its not important.
. Lasers dont do anything for me hence why i said they was pointless. I came for an audio - raw Autechre using their music to produce the effect. Music matters, the visual stuff doesnt imho. It was too quiet to make an audio impression.
£3.50 for a small bottle of beer IS expensive. You can get a big bottle from the Custard Factory for £3
From Watmm forum - "Ale was a bit pricy"
Yep i heard before the worries of the sound limitations and how Autechre were also worried about the levels days before the gig. It was loud enough up front and close so i doubt the artists would complain. I know their are restrictions but i didnt expect them to impact that much.
To put a party on of any size takes balls but it takes bigger balls to accept not everyone will enjoy it and some things are going to be disappointing. We used to host nights at the Custard Factory including a very memorable evening with u-ziq, venetian snares, chevron and frog pocket. We know how hard it is to setup a night like that and after a dozen or so we decided we preferred to be punters. If it makes you feel better, people complained that the PA was too loud

I'm not on my own here so please remove the blinkers. I dont visit many boards but I read some negative posts at xltronic as well.
In response.
I've seen LFO live at least 4 times in my life and he doesnt always go for the 200bpm option. I know he prefers the more ravey side of things and each to their own. It wasnt my bag - the pill heads loved it though. One punter on xltronic must have said he didnt enjoy his set as well as another replied with "I thought LFO was a slight dissapointment aswell". Not just me squire..
So Autechre brought in the laser show! Even if the bloody queen brought it in its not important.

£3.50 for a small bottle of beer IS expensive. You can get a big bottle from the Custard Factory for £3

Yep i heard before the worries of the sound limitations and how Autechre were also worried about the levels days before the gig. It was loud enough up front and close so i doubt the artists would complain. I know their are restrictions but i didnt expect them to impact that much.
To put a party on of any size takes balls but it takes bigger balls to accept not everyone will enjoy it and some things are going to be disappointing. We used to host nights at the Custard Factory including a very memorable evening with u-ziq, venetian snares, chevron and frog pocket. We know how hard it is to setup a night like that and after a dozen or so we decided we preferred to be punters. If it makes you feel better, people complained that the PA was too loud

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mate when you put on a party of that size not everyone will go 'yeah that's great, everything was perfect'... there is always gonna be the odd gripe and we expect that. not all ae fans will like lfo and vice versa.
it's a very difficult party to put on given the circumstances and limitations we had to work with...
so saying that, i don't think i need to take anything on the chin really as i think we achieved an excellent result that all the artists were very pleased with too... along with the other 99.9% of the 2000 people who turned up on the night.
i just thought that you came across a bit too negative, as in 'this was disappointing, that was too fast, this was too expensive, that was pointless'... i could maybe understand your point of view if you had any credibility in the electronic music scene... i might actually listen then.
the way we see it is...
if lfo wanted to play fast we respect that and listen, if autechre wanted to use lasers then we're happy for them to use lasers, if the owners of the space want to sell beer at £3.30 a bottle we deal with that and if the council complain about the noise then we look at other ways to get the best sound possible on the night...
but like i said, i'm pretty sure you would have done a better job... seeing as you've put on a couple of memorable parties before at the custard factory, booked a few planet mu artists
it's a very difficult party to put on given the circumstances and limitations we had to work with...
so saying that, i don't think i need to take anything on the chin really as i think we achieved an excellent result that all the artists were very pleased with too... along with the other 99.9% of the 2000 people who turned up on the night.
i just thought that you came across a bit too negative, as in 'this was disappointing, that was too fast, this was too expensive, that was pointless'... i could maybe understand your point of view if you had any credibility in the electronic music scene... i might actually listen then.
the way we see it is...
if lfo wanted to play fast we respect that and listen, if autechre wanted to use lasers then we're happy for them to use lasers, if the owners of the space want to sell beer at £3.30 a bottle we deal with that and if the council complain about the noise then we look at other ways to get the best sound possible on the night...
but like i said, i'm pretty sure you would have done a better job... seeing as you've put on a couple of memorable parties before at the custard factory, booked a few planet mu artists

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oh and here's a youtube clip from the first party we put on at the warehouse...
you can so tell that everyone was disappointed... obviously complaining about this and that...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=neK5ChLvkxo
you can so tell that everyone was disappointed... obviously complaining about this and that...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=neK5ChLvkxo
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hurrah! best thing you have written - shame you continued below though. Although i like both LFO and AE...ComputerControlled wrote:mate when you put on a party of that size not everyone will go 'yeah that's great, everything was perfect'... there is always gonna be the odd gripe and we expect that. not all ae fans will like lfo and vice versa.
It would make you a better promoter if you listened to the people who actually pay for these events. I know i wont be going to a night at that venue again regardless of who hosts it or who plays there. I dont like the stubborn attitude of some promotors who think they should be acknowledged for hosting a night. The people with the true skills are the artists, just remember that. You need to sort your stats out as well... 99.9% is not a true reflection.ComputerControlled wrote: so saying that, i don't think i need to take anything on the chin really as i think we achieved an excellent result that all the artists were very pleased with too... along with the other 99.9% of the 2000 people who turned up on the night.
Yep my negative vibe was because i had a disappointing night. I dont have to have any credibility to have a view and you need to come down to planet earth, smell the roses and realise the sun doesnt shine. Anal attitude to have.ComputerControlled wrote: i just thought that you came across a bit too negative, as in 'this was disappointing, that was too fast, this was too expensive, that was pointless'... i could maybe understand your point of view if you had any credibility in the electronic music scene... i might actually listen then.
If Ae wanted lasers, if LFO wanted to play live, if you want to wear pink etc etc then so be it but i dont have to like it and i will air that whether you like it or not (or if you have any credibility in the scene...hahaComputerControlled wrote:if lfo wanted to play fast we respect that and listen, if autechre wanted to use lasers then we're happy for them to use lasers, if the owners of the space want to sell beer at £3.30 a bottle we deal with that and if the council complain about the noise then we look at other ways to get the best sound possible on the night...

Yeah much better night in generalComputerControlled wrote:but like i said, i'm pretty sure you would have done a better job... seeing as you've put on a couple of memorable parties before at the custard factory, booked a few planet mu artists


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