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So......
Anybody had a play with it yet?
What are your thoughts?

I must say it looks good but its so unstable, it is constantly crashing on me. Really gutted as I had no problems at all with 7.

so glad you said that! i'm using 7 at the moment and am about to go out live after not doing it for a while . i was thinking of updating to 8 before i go out , so i wont bother now! what computer are you using? im dong a mac , don't know if that makes any difference.

Hi Username,
The added features really do look stunning (the totally overhauled warp engine looks amazing) and I have high hopes for it...

Well heres my laptop specs:
I have a Dell Studio 1737
Intel Core 2 Duo T9400 (2.53Ghz, 1066Mhz, 6MB)
Memory: 4096MB (2x2048) 800MHz DDR2 Dual Channel with a 500GB Serial ATA (5.400RPM) dual HDD.
OS:Windows Vista SP2 (32bit)... I know!!!
I run it through an M-Audio Firewire audio box which has always been really good.


This laptop is more or less brand spanking new (about 2 months) and as I said before I have had no issues at all with Ableton 7.
I have been waiting to buy the Akai APC40:

This got released on Friday, so I popped up to my local music dealer and got one. I also decided to upgrade my Ableton as my version 7 was only a "trial" version
So I thought I would splash out and download version 8 from the Ableton website.
After everything was installed and running I road tested the APC40 (which was sooooooo much fun) with a few samples and a couple of VSTi's running.
On the second project I opened up I noticed that 8 seemed to be eating up a lot more CPU and the audio signal had a few glitches in it.
Then it crashed, so I had to reboot the system and then I reopened the same project... same thing.
I then systematically went through all my version 7 projects, and they all crashed after a relatively short amount of time (5-10 minutes).
I wondered whether there was a conflict with my Akai (or even certain VSTis I use) so I created a new project using only inhouse samples and instruments.
This too crashed after a while and I was extremely disappointed to have spent well over a grand and get no instant gratification out of my purchases.

There is however a beta patch (v8.0.4) on the Ableton site which I may try tonight. But looking at the bug fixes for that patch, it looks unlikely that it will remedy any of my problems!
I should have read the Ableton forums as there is a lot of chat about the unstablilty and general disappointment that 8 was shipped with so many bugs.
Although I have spoken to quite a few people who have had no issue at all with 8.
I really dont know whther Macs are having the same issues, I suggest a snoop around the Ableton forums

Anyway I am considering re-installing 7 until 8 becomes more stable. This does mena that I cant mess about with my AP40 for a bit, but it looks nice sitting there with all its flashy lights!

I would seriously stay with 7 until 8 becomes more stable. I know there is no way I would take 8 out and about just yet... I wanted to play at a mates party over the weekend, but it was never gonna happen!!!

As I said before Username, keep an eye on the Ableton forums, but going by my experience of 8, I would not guarantee a smooth transition!

7 for the summer it is then!

thanks

i'll let you know how it goes...

Using 8.03 (or whatever the latest update is) and it's been fairly rock solid for me. Live 7 would crash quite a bit for me but I think I narrowed it down to certain plug ins. Only one crash in live 8 after one week's use. Love the new groove features and am also patiently awaiting the arrival of my APC40. Even if you upgrade, version 7 will still be on your pc if you find 8 too unstable.

I also had loads of problems with Live 7 (working on a XP O/S). I have yet to try version 8 though.

p.s. anyone using Vista or tinking of moving to Vista, should install Windows 7 instead. I've ran it for a few weeks on 4 machines and It's pretty solid, fast and reliable....so far!

bentley wrote:Using 8.03 (or whatever the latest update is) and it's been fairly rock solid for me. Live 7 would crash quite a bit for me but I think I narrowed it down to certain plug ins. Only one crash in live 8 after one week's use. Love the new groove features and am also patiently awaiting the arrival of my APC40. Even if you upgrade, version 7 will still be on your pc if you find 8 too unstable.

Its a lot better now I have d/led the beta patch.
There are still a few issues (it crashed again last night!) but its a LOT better than before, I must say though, version 7 was solid for me...
Your gonna love the APC40, I have had soooo much fun with it.
Still getting my head around the new groove feature.
Do you find 8 eats up more CPU?? It seems that way to me.

Loopz wrote:I also had loads of problems with Live 7 (working on a XP O/S). I have yet to try version 8 though.
p.s. anyone using Vista or tinking of moving to Vista, should install Windows 7 instead. I've ran it for a few weeks on 4 machines and It's pretty solid, fast and reliable....so far!

I've got Vista on my laptop, and I am thinking of moving to Windows 7. Its just I really cant be bothered to install everything back on it! I probably should though as I hate waisting way over a whole gig of RAM just for an OS.

memly wrote:

bentley wrote:Using 8.03 (or whatever the latest update is) and it's been fairly rock solid for me. Live 7 would crash quite a bit for me but I think I narrowed it down to certain plug ins. Only one crash in live 8 after one week's use. Love the new groove features and am also patiently awaiting the arrival of my APC40. Even if you upgrade, version 7 will still be on your pc if you find 8 too unstable.

Its a lot better now I have d/led the beta patch.
There are still a few issues (it crashed again last night!) but its a LOT better than before, I must say though, version 7 was solid for me...
Your gonna love the APC40, I have had soooo much fun with it.
Still getting my head around the new groove feature.
Do you find 8 eats up more CPU?? It seems that way to me.

I've heard about the CPU increase from several users but I'm not seeing a difference yet. Running a large project right now that seems to behave the same in both versions. I'll keep my eyes open for anything odd...

Loopz wrote:I also had loads of problems with Live 7 (working on a XP O/S). I have yet to try version 8 though.

p.s. anyone using Vista or tinking of moving to Vista, should install Windows 7 instead. I've ran it for a few weeks on 4 machines and It's pretty solid, fast and reliable....so far!

Steve,

Do you know if Windows 7 allows for driver aggregation(I think that's the term) allowing for the user to address several audio interfaces within a program? I heard mention of it somewhere at one point but can't seem to find the reference.